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Just Saw The Harry Potter Film

Hermione Duel
And I loved it. Maybe my favorite along with the film adaptation of The Prisoner of Azkaban directed by Alfonso Cuarón--although the only one to make me cry was the film of Goblet of Fire--the reaction of Cedric's father when he finds out his son is dead did me in.

So, below some random reactions under a cut--just in case anyone would construe them as spoilers. Although we all know the plot by now, don't we? But the movieverse often does feel like an alternate universe, doesn't it?



1) Watching Snape (aka Alan Rickman). Just how much does it suck to be Severus Snape? Yes, I know Tom Riddle and Harry Potter had it bad as young orphans, Remus suffered from lycanthropy and Sirius all those years in prison, but man, somehow to me Snape had it the worst. The opening diverged from the book--at least that I can remember--Charity Burbage not just saying, "Severus, please" but calling him a friend. In that scene I just couldn't help but think of both Lily and Dumbledore crossing Snape's mind.

2) Watching Draco (aka Tom Felton). To me, at least, the expressions on his face said, "I am not enjoying this--I'm not a Death Eater at heart--please keep Auntie away from me..." *huggles poor Draco*

3) Watching Luna (aka Evanna Lynch). How awesome is she? Two little scenes, not more than five lines, and my heart breaks for her--and I couldn't help but feel, God, she's wonderful with Harry--especially comforting him after Dobby's death. Loads more chemistry there in the tiny bits with him in this film than all the scenes in all the films (and books) with Ginny put together.

4) Watching Harry and Hermione. I don't consider myself a Harry/Hermione fan--I've never sought out the fic, and though I like Harry, I didn't particularly get a shippy vibe from the books--and certainly the last book seemed to put paid to that pairing, with Harry only caring about Ginny and Hermione about Ron when they're alone together in the Forest of Dean. Well, it's different with the films, isn't it? Or for me it is--because I could read sexual tension there--or at least far, far, far more chemistry between Harry and Hermione as "just friends" than Hermione and Ron or Harry and Ginny. (A friend tells me she saw it as completely platonic--but hell, I do like them together.)

5) I loved the scene in the ministry--whoever those actors were, somehow I felt a Harry, Hermione and Ron vibe with each of them. And I loved the whole dark atmosphere--very noir, very Nazi-like but not. Sorta a Magical 1984.

6) And being reminded by quietselkie below, the animation of "The Tale of the Three Brothers" from Beedle the Bard was made of win.

7) The Silver Doe. One word: awesome.



And Oh, I'm writing again. Sorta. Sorta as in I'll never post what I have. I just did this little experiment and it took off before I knew it, just spilling out. I don't think I've written a thing in over a year. Unfortunately I don't think it works--unfortunate because there are good lines in it I wish I could use--or recycle--but doubt they'll ever quite fit elsewhere.

And yes, it was Snape/Hermione. For some reason those two still live in my brain, even though I still have this too-stuffed feeling of revulsion at trying to read any more fic in it--and if anything were to break it down, it would have been all the raves from friends about Lariope's Killing Time--so obviously I still need time away. Although if Bluestocking does one of her SS/HG Christmas specials, that might break my resolve...

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droxy
Dec. 2nd, 2010 12:14 am (UTC)
Pokes... LOL

Long time no see.
harmony_bites
Dec. 2nd, 2010 12:29 am (UTC)
*pokes back* *waves* Yeah, I know. I've been spending time reading *real* books rather than hanging around the archives. But the film lured me into taking a peek at something HP--and I'm not sorry. I heard some not-so enthusiastic reviews, but maybe it's different with a fan--I did really love it.
droxy
Dec. 2nd, 2010 12:35 am (UTC)
I thought for a movie it was pretty good. Hard core book fans are going to nitpick it. =)
quietselkie
Dec. 2nd, 2010 01:00 am (UTC)
I liked the movie. Adored the animation when Hermione reads the Beedle story.

I agree that the Ministry scene was quite well done, and the adult actors did a great job of conveying a sense of the youths inside them.

Of all the books, I only read Deathly Hallows once, and have never felt the need to revisit it. I thought the film helped tremendously with the pacing that was so troubled in the book.
harmony_bites
Dec. 2nd, 2010 01:07 am (UTC)
I forgot to mention that animated bit from the Beadle story--I agree--it was adorable.

One of the non-fan reviews I read complained about all the camping scenes--well, blame Rowling, but I never found the movie dragged (unlike the book), and so much of the scenery was spectacular---especially that place with the stones like mushrooms...
bluestocking79
Dec. 2nd, 2010 01:42 am (UTC)
Hah! No pressure there, right? *g* But I am flattered, so thank you.

It's not outside the realm of possibility, but it's probably unlikely that I'll be able to put together an HP Christmas special this year. The summer did a number on me, and between one thing and another, I went nearly six months without writing anything at all. I've just started again, and I'm getting back into the swing of it--but it is for another fandom, because that's what came to me. I feel mildly guilty about that, but... well, I have no intentions of leaving HP, and there's room for more than one fandom in my heart. My HP muse will return eventually; I'm fairly certain of that.

I still have yet to see the movie, but I'm not steering clear of spoilers. I'm keen to know what people think. The consensus seems remarkably positive overall, although I've been very amused at a number of the reviews from critics that mention the plot dragging, or how boring the endless camping is. Clearly, they haven't read the book. *g* Seems to me we were saying just the same thing after reading DH. It's nice to know the weaknesses of pacing and structure weren't just in our minds, as disappointed fans. All the same, I'd bet money that the movie improved on the book's pacing, if only because it could hardly be worse...
harmony_bites
Dec. 2nd, 2010 03:06 am (UTC)
It's been over a year of writer's block for me, so all I can say is, whatever fandom it is, if it's getting you to write, that's awesome--and even though I'm still at the "no, not one more" stage with SSHG fic, the part that loves it so much is glad you think you're not done with HP yet.

The consensus seems remarkably positive overall, although I've been very amused at a number of the reviews from critics that mention the plot dragging, or how boring the endless camping is. Clearly, they haven't read the book. *g*

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaa. No kidding. And yes, I do think the pacing is better in the film, if only because they found some truly stunning landscapes to place them in.
miamadwyn
Dec. 2nd, 2010 01:44 am (UTC)
I really liked the film a lot. PoA was my fave up to now but I haven't been a fan of any of them, really.

I've been reading a lot of published works, too. I guess burnout happens. But since ss/hg was really just about the only ship I ever cared about, now that I'm feeling the itch to dip back in, that is where it will be. Not because of the movie, though. Just because I'm trying to reclaim some of my former joys after a rough spell in RL.
harmony_bites
Dec. 2nd, 2010 03:08 am (UTC)
Hey, if fic can do it...

My first fandom was Trek, and once I left I didn't really look back--in terms of reading or writing. But then I didn't really have a favorite ship there as much as a favorite character. I'll admit in that sense Snape/Hermione is different--the first time I ever played in a popular, prolific ship.
christinex1001
Dec. 2nd, 2010 02:26 am (UTC)
This is pretty much spot-on with my own impressions. And even my husband noticed the chemistry between Harry and Hermione, so that tells you something right there.

The doe scene was perfection.

And it got me writing fanfic again, but not SS/HG. Still, it's been fun to jump back into that world.
harmony_bites
Dec. 2nd, 2010 03:12 am (UTC)
And even my husband noticed the chemistry between Harry and Hermione, so that tells you something right there.

A friend of mine saw it as completely platonic, and another in her review said she found the dancing scene between them as "awkward." I dunno. I really thought they looked good together in the film--and it's not my ship. Maybe it's just that Rupert Grint does nothing for me--but we have this smart, clever, loyal girl paired with this slow on the uptake guy who can't do much beyond "finite incantum" and who runs out on them all. I just scratch my head, films and books both trying to get what she sees in him. And I actually like Ron, but I don't see him as a good match.

And it got me writing fanfic again, but not SS/HG. Still, it's been fun to jump back into that world.

It's a rich one--even beyond SSHG, although that has always been my favorite within it by far.
kellychambliss
Dec. 2nd, 2010 05:22 am (UTC)
Welcome back! Glad you're writing again, even if you're still on SSHG overload. You'll find some way to use what you've written; nothing is every wasted, even if it sits on your hard-drive for years. It'll recycle itself somehow.

I had a similar over-dose of first-time Janeway/Chakotay and Janeway/Seven stories. I honestly don't think I can ever read another one.
harmony_bites
Dec. 2nd, 2010 03:33 pm (UTC)
Even if I do never get to recycle, it was funny how after all that time away a lot flowed from my fingertips as if the muse just had to say, "Hey, I'm still here if you would just try. It was strange--and fun--even if it then did peter out.

I had a similar over-dose of first-time Janeway/Chakotay and Janeway/Seven stories.

Heh. Well, especially with J/C there was just soooooo many...

I honestly don't think I can ever read another one.

I feel that way about Snape/Hermione, despite the muse taking off from them. Yet I rather hope it'll not always be that way. I know you never really cared for Chakotay with Janeway while for me in Harry Potter Snape/Hermione is OTP. Because of all the characters, I feel for Snape, and I think for various reasons Hermione would be his best match. And I just like how they play off each other--and the reaction they'd get from others. I can't imagine any coupling that would drive Ron and Harry more insane, with the possible exception of Ginny/Snape so...

*stops herself from writing a ship manifesto*

All of which to say, still I *theoretically* lean that way, even if I still feel a rather nauseous feeling at the thought of consuming it--or any HP fic at the moment. Sure didn't keep me away from the film!
kribu
Dec. 2nd, 2010 08:01 am (UTC)
I loved the film. Definitely my favourite of the films so far. I think it helped tremendously to split the book into two - this really felt faithful to the book, and not in the way the first two movies did (with cramming as much in as possible), but also in spirit.

And for the first time, everything that was either left out or added actually made sense, I felt.

Oh yes, Harry/Hermione. Not my ship, but in the films, the chemistry is just there between the actors - as much as the chemistry is there at all. Much more than between Harry & Ginny or Hermione & Ron. And I think they did a fine job with it, anyway - those who like Harry/Hermione probably squeed; those who don't could easily consider it as very close platonic friendship (including the dance in the tent - either a friend trying to cheer up his best friend, or "this is what could have been", depending on one's preferences).

And yay for the writing! I finally broke through a complete six month block myself last week, after falling head first into another fandom, and after I got that written, I'm now ready for some SSHG again, both to write and to read (outside the exchange, I've read really very little fic this year - didn't quite reach the "thoroughly sick of it" stage, fortunately, but definitely needed a bit of a break, so I have some inkling as to what you mean).
harmony_bites
Dec. 2nd, 2010 03:40 pm (UTC)
this really felt faithful to the book, and not in the way the first two movies did

I agree--and it made me think of all the favorite moments in the book we never got--especially the "If you are prepared" scene between Dumbledore and Snape.

And for the first time, everything that was either left out or added actually made sense, I felt.

If felt plotwise it made more sense than the book! And some of those additions were my favorite part of the film--like Ron telling Harry they wouldn't last two days without Hermione!

I'm now ready for some SSHG again, both to write and to read (outside the exchange, I've read really very little fic this year - didn't quite reach the "thoroughly sick of it" stage, fortunately, but definitely needed a bit of a break, so I have some inkling as to what you mean

I think it wasn't so much Snape/Hermione but forcing myself to read beyond it into ships I didn't like for KIA that just broke me. But for whatever reason at some point even with my beloved ship I felt, no, not one more. And I do still feel that way, so it's strange that when I started writing again, it was with them.

I'm happy you're no longer suffering from writer's block and looking that way again nevertheless. :-)
pokeystar
Dec. 2nd, 2010 08:27 am (UTC)
LOL - I went to see it with Corianderpie & Anonymous_plume and at one point I leaned over and whispered "The Harmony shippers are peeing their pants right now"

I just typed that, read it over and it's weirdly funny now.

I need to go to bed.
harmony_bites
Dec. 2nd, 2010 03:42 pm (UTC)
LOL! I know what you mean though. The hair-cutting, the dance scene, Ron's nightmare of them making love--I could just see the million and one photo manips the Harry/Hermione forces are going to be busily making...

I envy you the experience of seeing it with fellow fans--that just has to be soooooooooo fun!
e_danae
Dec. 2nd, 2010 11:51 am (UTC)
The seventh book is not my favorite, but the seventh film certainly is. I love what Yates and Kloves made of it - everything you've pointed out I really enjoyed. And I like the cast more and more, old and new alike.

You're writing?! SS/HG?! The joy and anticipation!
harmony_bites
Dec. 2nd, 2010 03:47 pm (UTC)
I think the seventh book is my least favorite for various reasons, although I liked it a lot more than just about everyone on my f-list. I saw plot holes dotting the landscape like swiss cheese, the camping scenes dragged, Snape's death felt like such a waste and I hated the epilogue--but there were things I liked--mostly at the point *after* where they broke--which makes me excited for the last picture. I hope they'll film "The Prince's Tale!"

You're writing?! SS/HG?! The joy and anticipation!

You're very sweet to say so. But it's more that I was writing it and it petered out, and I doubt even one line of what I wrote will ever be posted--but it had been so long I had written at all it still seemed worth celebrating!
e_danae
Dec. 2nd, 2010 08:57 pm (UTC)
Oh, writing is always good, finished or unfinished. If the Muse struck once she can strike again. Think about the good lines which should not be wasted... I'm hopeful :)
keladry_lupin
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:34 pm (UTC)
I agree wholeheartedly with all seven points, but especially 1, 2, and 3. I never shipped Harry/Hermione, but they make more sense to me than Ron/Hermione. But if I had a choice about who's with Harry, it would be Luna.

Yay for writing!
harmony_bites
Dec. 3rd, 2010 02:00 am (UTC)
I really hate the canon pairings, though for different reasons. I'm a anyone but Ron for Hermione person, not because I have anything against Ron, but to me they just don't fit together. With Harry/Ginny, it's more that besides being the most boring, predictable pairing possible Rowling did nothing to convince me those two have chemistry--and the films aren't doing any better. And Remus/Tonks? That was just one big HUH???

So yeah, it would have been nice to see Harry/Luna--if only to break the Gryffindor/Gryffindor monotony. And somehow, for some reason in the fic I've read with those two, they really seem to fit--and that tiny scene with Harry, Luna and Dobby, even though never in the book, encapsulates why. (Rather reminiscent with the way she got through to Harry when he was grieving over Sirius) So yeah, if I were playing the shipping game and could arrange things to my satisfaction...

Harry/Luna
Hermione/Snape (but knowing Rowling would never do that, Draco would have been nice...)
Ron/Pansy (So, I have Gryffindor/Slytherin on the brain...)

Yay for writing!

It was a nice surprise :-)
gioiamia
Dec. 4th, 2010 05:49 am (UTC)
The animation sequence was just absolutely the most incredible surprise ever in this film. I continue to be in utter awe of whatever creative genius created it and whoever developed the idea to begin with and greenlit it. THANK YOU, mysterious producer somewhere out there! It was so, so, SO good.

And PoA was my favorite movie, too. I just found it visually stunning. (Which, btw, is WHY THE 2005 PRIDE AND PREJUDICE WAS SO AWESOME. That and the score. And Jane wasn't ugly. *snicker*)

I have to think it must be a real challenge for actors in these films to perform as someone else due to polyjuice potion. That's one thing that was definitely acted and directed quite well here.

I was disappointed that the ministry scene didn't include the warning to Mr. Weasley, but that was rather minor in the end, as was the fact that Harry didn't take Mad-Eye's mad eye.

And I agree with you about Evanna Lynch's performance. Her casting remains one of the best things about this film series. I also get a kick out of her interviews in which she advocates things like Dumbledore/Luna as a ship. Hehe!

And speaking of actors with tiny roles in this film, how about Neville? I loved the fact that they wrote in such a tiny line for him which did a great job of summing up his character in the last book. He was there in Harry's place, with all the brash, obnoxious, courageous leadership he could offer.

And while you know I do think that Harry and Ginny had chemistry in the book - I've always felt that they had a quiet kinship and understanding that Harry, as a hopeless teenage boy, was just never very good at explaining, but from which he derived immense comfort - I absolutely agree with you that there was something magical about Harry and Hermione in this film. The dance scene - wasn't that Excellent? I thought he was going to kiss her for a moment, but then it quickly slipped into something better; something that expressed the depth of their closer-than-siblings love for one another. It really was sweet.

Now as for you writing... *points to icon* ...I think a part of you will always belong to Hermione, and if you're going to be true to yourself, it is important that you focus on nurturing that part of your soul. So there.

harmony_bites
Dec. 4th, 2010 06:05 am (UTC)
THANK YOU, mysterious producer somewhere out there! It was so, so, SO good.

I liked your comment on your own post, about what a brilliant solution it was, that made a virtue of a problem--neither live action nor Hermione simply narrating the story would have done as well. It was just so well done. And I too thought of Tim Burton when I saw it.

(Which, btw, is WHY THE 2005 PRIDE AND PREJUDICE WAS SO AWESOME. That and the score. And Jane wasn't ugly. *snicker*)

*gags*

I also get a kick out of her interviews in which she advocates things like Dumbledore/Luna as a ship.

Heh heh. Well, if Dumbles wasn't gay... They actually have a similar way about them---I never thought of that before. That mixture of goofy but wise. (Except Luna isn't evil)

And while you know I do think that Harry and Ginny had chemistry in the book - I've always felt that they had a quiet kinship and understanding that Harry, as a hopeless teenage boy, was just never very good at explaining, but from which he derived immense comfort

I never saw that frankly. The whole Harry falling for her seemed to just come out of no where in Book Six (as did Remus/Tonks). I also think they're about the most boring couple ever. Even Ron and Hermione at least have a conflict and contrast. But Harry and Ginny? I also admit the fact she has red hair like his mom creeps me out a bit--it seems so incestuous. But I also rather hate how Rowling matched Gryffindors together. It's not just that I found the demonization of a whole group of children with the Slytherins disturbing, but just how the Gryffindors hog all the attention. I would have loved if Harry had wound up with someone like Cho or Luna and not another Gryffindor.

And in the films, it's arguably even worse than the books--I just see absolutely No spark between those actors.

I absolutely agree with you that there was something magical about Harry and Hermione in this film. The dance scene - wasn't that Excellent?

I know one friend who saw it as completely platonic, and another who described it as "awkward." I definitely saw more there. Ron had good reason to be jealous :-)

Now as for you writing... *points to icon* ...I think a part of you will always belong to Hermione, and if you're going to be true to yourself, it is important that you focus on nurturing that part of your soul. So there.

Not that you're biased or anything *points to icon*
harmony_bites
Dec. 4th, 2010 06:19 am (UTC)
Oh, and I almost put Neville on the list--but seven seemed such an appropriate number :-) But yes, that tiny moment hit me as just pitch perfect in hinting at what's to come.
silburygirl
Dec. 6th, 2010 09:01 pm (UTC)
The silhouette style of the animated sequence was utterly gorgeous. I love stylized animation more than words can possibly express, and that was an absolutely perfect example of why it works.

The dance scene with Harry and Hermione was awkward, but that was what was so charming about it. It's a nice, silly moment when everyone is at their most miserable. And it did come across as platonic to me, not because there was no chemistry, but because there is the moment when they could kiss and they both walk away from it. Perfect choice of song, there, too.

Also, Draco... Draco, Draco, Draco. I just want to hug him, poor dear. I love him so very much.

And the Snape scene was fantastic.
harmony_bites
Dec. 6th, 2010 09:12 pm (UTC)
I love stylized animation more than words can possibly express, and that was an absolutely perfect example of why it works.

It was brilliant. Simply watching Hermione narrate it or fading into a live action (or even traditional Disneyesque animation) just wouldn't have worked the way this did.

And it did come across as platonic to me, not because there was no chemistry, but because there is the moment when they could kiss and they both walk away from it.

I was wondering how it was that I could see such a different movie in that scene than others, but that interpretation rather explains why I can see chemistry, even sexual tension, another can see "awkward" and yet another platonic.

Also, Draco... Draco, Draco, Draco. I just want to hug him, poor dear. I love him so very much.

I know you do. I don't know that I do exactly. I go back and forth about his character--I don't see him as evil or vicious (unlike his father *cough*) but I don't see him as admirable, nor necessarily sympathetic--it can depend on how you read between the lines. The film is a different story though--there it was obvious in Felton's acting--to me anyway--that he was NOT happy as a Death Eater, recognized his classmates, but was torn and did NOT want to identify them.

And the Snape scene was fantastic.

One scene and for me he rather stole the show--cuz sucks to be him.
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